Living Disease-Free, An Interview With Aajonus Vonderplanitz

A.V.: My experience says no. Example: because the vagus nerve to my stomach was severed and hydrochloric acid is not produced in my stomach, according to science and medicine, I am in the category of people in their 80's and 90's who they say are in danger of bacterial poisoning and parasitic invasion. Yet, I've been eating raw meats since September 1976 and never have had either bacterial poisoning or parasites. And I've eaten some pretty rotten meats to test the issue. Probably, the problem is some chemical, drug, preservative or pesticide in the food to which those people had an allergy that killed them. Then science and the medical professions point their fingers at the vultures. Again, the vultures do not create the carcass on which they feed. 

R.B.: So eating the raw meat cured you of cancers? 

A.V.: When I began eating it I began feeling better immediately. My body developed naturally, even without exercise. 

R.B.: You said in your book that you had put your cancers in remission on a fruitarian/vegetarian diet. 

A.V.: Yes, by eating tremendous amounts of raw fat. But I did not reverse it until I began eating raw meats and raw bone marrow. 

R.B.: What kinds of raw fat and meat do you eat? 

A.V.: Avocado, unsalted raw butter, raw cream, unsalted raw cheeses, coconuts, free-range eggs produced without hormones, oils pressed below 96° F., like olive, sunflower, peanut and flax (with high lignans). Raw meats that I eat are fish, chicken, turkey, lamb, beef, and sometimes the glands, for instance, liver. However, I eat bone marrow and glands only from organically fed animals. 

R.B.: Why? 

A.V.: If high amounts of pesticides and chemicals are in the feed, and/or if antibiotics, hormones and drugs are fed or injected into the animals, the bones and glands become toxic and these toxins damage the person who eats them. 

R.B.: Why don't chemical toxins store in muscle meat? 

A.V.: A little does but not enough to cause any problems, yet. Who knows what will happen in the next 10 years if we don't stop contaminating animals. For now, animals' bodies use fats to bind with toxins. Bone marrow and glands contain enormous quantities of fat to produce hormones, maintain resilience and protect themselves. So, most chemical toxins store in the bones and glands. 

R.B.: Has this diet worked for others with Multiple Myeloma? 

A.V.: Six out of seven. I will tell you of the latest. Three months ago Dora Hagerer, 67, called me from a clinic near San Diego where she had been receiving chemotherapy. Her hemoglobin was about 7 and her red cell count 15,000; she had had several transfusions. The doctors were sending her home to die. She heard about my program. I put her on a raw diet, including small portions of raw meat 4-5 times a day. Dora called me last week to tell me that she had gone to her doctor the week before for blood tests. The doctor called a few days later and asked her to repeat the tests. Dora asked, "Why?" The doctor told her that the lab had made a mistake, that her blood results came back normal. She had the tests redone and, again, they were normal. Do you know what the doctor said when she began to tell him about the diet? 

R.B.: What? 

A.V.: "I don't want to know what you are doing." 

R.B.: Well, he would have to face his guilt. 

A.V.: And the fact that his career is supposed to be creating health; that is the oath that he took. Wouldn't it be wonderful if he were to trim his life-style while he re-educates himself to help the body cure itself rather than attacking it with butchering surgeries, burning radiation, and poisoning drugs? 

R.B.: Is Dora able to function now? 

A.V.: She is feeling a lot stronger. I received this card from her today. She said, "I'm so happy that I'm recovering from this disease. It's hard to believe that this is possible after being told otherwise by everyone except you." 

R.B.: That must feel really good. 

A.V.: I experience great joy, sometimes to tears. But I'm not doing it directly. It's the raw food that gives her body the nutrients it needs, works with best and easiest. I am merely the secondary guide. 

R.B.: Who's her primary guide? 

A.V.: Her body through instinct. When a person eats the foods that I suggest when they are hungry for them, healing results are greater and quicker in most cases. If I were to define it further it might seem more complicated than it is. I've outlined it in the book within the story/testimonial section to make it accessible on emotional and intuitive levels. 

R.B.: You did an excellent job of it. I was so enthralled I finished the book in one session. I didn't sleep until 5 a.m. that morning. 

A.V.: Thank you. It took five years of rewrites. In fact, I was ready for another rewrite when the publisher said no, "You'll be rewriting this `til you die. Enough!" 

R.B.: You do not exercise? 

A.V.: Not in 18 years as of April 1997. My fingers dance over my computer keyboard, I roller-skate an average of once a month, I walk from room to room, from the house to car, and car to wherever. I've taken 4 yoga classes in 18 years. I carry my groceries 2-3 times a week. That's the extent of my exercise. 

R.B.: But you look so fit and muscular, buffed. 

A.V.: It is the product of the raw meat.

R.B.: Do all of your patients look like as fit as you without exercise? 

A.V.: Most. I'm not against exercise. I was never well enough to be athletic as a child so it's something I do only if encouraged by someone. Exercise is important for people who have overactive glands, especially adrenals. If they don't burn the excess adrenaline with exercise they are likely to be irritable and volatile. 

R.B.: For those who don't fancy exercise, how long would it take them on your diet to have the body they want without having to work at it? 

A.V.: Different times per the individual. For example, normally a toxic woman between ages 23-33 requires 1 1/2-3 1/2 years on my raw diet to become healthy enough to have a naturally trim and muscular physic without exercising. But a toxic woman of the same age-range who has had children must add at least 1 year for each child she has had to reach that stage. And a toxic woman of the same age-range who has had a Caesarean section must add 2-5 years to achieve that stage. 

R.B.: Having a child puts that much of a strain on a woman's body? 

A.V.: It has been something I have observed for the last 21 years. 

R.B.: But once she has achieved this state of natural trimness and muscularity, a woman does not have to worry ever again? In her entire life? 

A.V.: As long as she maintains the raw diet, I would assume that would be true. I have only observed it for 21 years. 

R.B.: How does one lose weight on your diet of high fats? 

A.V.: More raw fats, then later, more raw meats. It is ironic, I know, but people overeat because they don't get the nutrients they need in cooked food. They don't process the cooked fats, proteins and sugars properly, so some store in the body as toxins. The body requires nutrients to cleanse them. When someone begins to eat only raw foods, especially plenty of raw fats and regularly raw meat, the old toxins are gradually cleansed away. One thirtysomething patient was 280 lbs. and was addicted to ice cream. I trusted her instincts, that she needed the cream. I gave her recipes to make raw ice cream from raw cream, fruit and unheated honey. She made one daily, eating up to a gallon a day. Within 5 months she had lost 140 lbs. and the craving for ice cream. After only 4 years on my raw diet, eating raw meat several times a day (most days), she maintained her weight at 125 lbs. without having to think about her weight, to this day. 

R.B.: She must adore you. 

A.V.: She adores her body and knows its the raw food. Who wouldn't after battling extreme overweight for 32 years. 

R.B.: You're being terribly modest. 

A.V.: Rae, I'm not going to let you put me on a pedestal. She appreciates me but she hasn't needed my help in 10 years. 

R.B.: How long did you help her? 

A.V.: About 24 months. As I said, I am only the secondary guide. Unlike the medical and pharmaceutical industries, I have devised a health approach on which people can depend on themselves for the rest of their lives. I would like humanity to get to a place where health is the norm as it was before cooking became the norm. Like all of those tribes who ate mainly raw foods, including raw meat, and never suffered diseases as we know them, not even tooth decay. ' 

R.B.: Do you really think that humanity, especially in this country, will give up their fast processed food for better health? 

A.V.: You can have everything in the world, but if you don't have your health what can you enjoy and how deeply?

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