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Aristotle's Rhetoric -- The Value of Pleasure and Sensation

 

Karl Note:  Even as far back as Aristotle the belief was the desire for sensation was natural and good.  Today's child is convinced that "sweet" is "good!"

What has been lacking, philosophically, from the works of those who hold this view is hinted at by Aristotle, but not sufficiently acknowledged.

I've quoted three sections from Aristotle's "Rhetoric" below.  The third quote shows that Aristotle was thinking of the point that I suggest has been missing.

For instance:

A girl who enjoys sex, when she is 14 years old, can usually not see into the future nine months and find that there is pain connected with the pleasure of the moment.  On balance she would probably agree that there is more pain and problem, nine months hence, than pleasure that lasted 10 minutes.  The immediate desire for sexual sensation has overcome the prediction of future consequences.

Sensation can be useful only to the extent that a person can easily and accurately see very long-term future consequences.  Very few can do this!

So, the kid eats sugar as a kid!  He enjoys it -- the sensation is fabulous -- but he is setting himself  up for disease -- and is completely unaware of that future certainty.  It is for THIS reason that "sensation" is NOT a good test of "good" or "bad."

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Since, however, it often happens that people agree that two things are both useful but do not agree about which is the more so, the next step will be to treat of relative goodness and relative utility.

. . . . . .

Again, the pleasanter of two things is the better, since all things pursue pleasure, and things instinctively desire pleasurable sensation for its own sake; and these are two of the characteristics by which the "good" and the "end" have been defined. One pleasure is greater than another if it is more unmixed with pain, or more lasting.

. . . . . .

And those things which are more lasting are better than those which are more fleeting, and the more secure than the less; the enjoyment of the lasting has the advantage of being longer, and that of the secure has the advantage of suiting our wishes, being there for us whenever we like.

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