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Eating The Aajonus Way -- FAQ

  1. Introduction: What is the importance of eating raw?  Specifically, what is the importance of raw meat and other animal products like eggs and milk? What is the background of this kind of eating, and what success does it have?

  2. How do you start eating raw animal foods (RAF) / What do you eat?

  3. Are you crazy?  Are raw animal foods safe?  You must be a lunatic!

  4. What symptoms can I expect relief from?

  5. What symptoms might I expect from this diet?

  6. SOME EATING AND COMBINATION GUIDELINES

  7. WHAT IS SAFE TO EAT?  HOW DO I PICK FOOD THAT IS SAFE FOR ME?   WHAT DO I NEED TO BE AWARE OF? (includes safe dairy, beef, chicken, fish, produce)

 

  1. Introduction: What is the importance of eating raw? Specifically, what is the importance of raw meat and other animal products like eggs and milk? What is the background of this kind of eating, and what success does it have?

    Many people recognize the importance of eating raw foods and see the health benefits from not cooking or "denaturing" foods.  But, many of us have tried vegetarian type raw eating and found over time that it did not sustain us and even had bad effects, from food cravings to poor bones and muscles.  We found that plant products often had the ability to "clean us out" but did not rebuild us or keep our systems healthy.  Yet, because of the bad health effects of eating animal products cooked, this was not an option either.  Many people think that we have evolved for thousands of years eating raw foods and that our digestion is not prepared to  handle cooked foods.  We don't have the digestive enzymes for cooked foods, and their effect in our bodies is not beneficial like raw animal foods are.

    The nature of proteins and fats is altered when exposed to heat. The effects can be quite opposite when consumed (cooked animal fats cause heart disease instead of nourishing, cleansing and rebuilding the body).  Many native societies have eaten raw animal products for many many years until their habits were changed by those thinking they were more "civilized". Some still do eat raw animal foods (RAF). These societies had health unknown to us today.  One good book documenting this is Native Nutrition by Ron Schmid, or Price/Pottenger's Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.

    This web site and mailing list is specifically about the diet detailed in the book, We Want to Live (often referred to on these pages as WWTL) by Aajonus Vonderplanitz, who spent the majority of his life experimenting with raw foods, and most recently raw animal foods, and has had astounding success (usually near 100%) in helping people to dietarily cure themselves of illnesses ranging from heart disease to cancer to chronic fatigue syndrome.  The author is NOT in any way involved in this site, and is not liable or responsible for any information herein.  We are people who have followed his diet, found amazing success, and wanted to share it with others.  For more information regarding the book, look here:  www.primaldiet.com.   To order the book, you may call toll free, 1-888-777-7930.

    Other sites which contain some of the understandings centered on in this paradigm, are the paleo-diet page found at: http://www.panix.com/~paleodiet/, and the raw food archives, found at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/raw-food.html.   Neither of these are in any way sponsored by this site, but may prove useful to those interested in other points of view.

  2. How do you start eating raw animal foods (RAF)/ What do you eat?

    Many of us have found the transition to eating raw animal foods (RAF) easy because it made sense to us, or our bodies responded so positively.  Others have eased into it a bit.   Some people start out with foods other than meats, such as raw milk, cream, cheese, butter, and eggs.  French bread with raw butter and raw milk and cream and raw, unheated honey is a delicious way to ease yourself in.  Smoothies made of raw eggs and fruit and honey is another way.  Eating little pieces of raw meat will awaken your body to what it needs, and you often start developing a desire for raw meat after doing this.  (Please see section seven for what to eat, good and safe raw foods, combinations, etc.)

    People find that on this diet, you will eat what it is you are craving, so meals vary from person to person.  Part of the understanding of this diet, though, is that the body functions best on raw animal foods, more so than plant products.  So, there is a switch from carbohydrates (bread, pastas, rice, and vegetables and fruits) to meats (including beef, chicken, and fish), and some dairy and eggs. Even mainstream research is starting to bear out the deleterious effects of eating a high carbohydrate diet, based on the evolutionary understanding that carbohydrates like pastas and breads were not available to us during our digestive/metabolic evolution, and are responsible for many of our diseases today.

    While fewer carbohydrates and more proteins and fats are becoming recommended, more often the percentages recommended on this diet are much higher than anything in mainstream recommendations, and of course, they are raw.  It wouldn't be uncommon for a person following this regime to need to eat a pound or more of beef a day on this diet, and you can and should consume as much fat (raw) as you want.  Raw fats found in meats, eggs, dairy, and to a less extent vegetable oils,  are essential for good health, detoxification and rebuilding.  For example, if you eat a slice of bread, it's best to eat a half of stick of butter with that! :)  Sound too good to be true?  Your body has craved this all along.  Your body is right.  For more ideas on recipes, join the mailing list and experiment with us.  Also, at some point, Aajonus is coming out with a recipe book.  AND, we will be adding a page just for our new-found recipes. :)  You can help us!

  3. Are you crazy?  Are raw animal foods safe?  You must be a lunatic!

    It is your decision what to make of the information you discover over time.  Doctors will surely tell you it is lunacy to think RAF safe, and RAF are becoming outlawed very rapidly (raw butter is illegal everywhere but California and it is under attack right now and may soon by outlawed there, and they are wanting to irradiate meat to make it "safer" for us - a process known to cause bad health effects like cancer).   BUT, there are those of us who listen to a different school of thought and who read beyond the scare tactics of industries who are trying to profit from keeping us "safe" (for example, the plastics industry, the dairy regulating board, etc.)   Many of us believe that there is far greater danger in not being aware of chemicals like hormones and pesticides in our foods (please see section seven for more information on that.)

    The theory behind this way of eating is not entirely new.  Microbes have a POSITIVE effect in our bodies, not negative.  Louis Pasteur (that's right - the guy who is famed for pasteurizing milk) even recanted on his death bed and declared that germs, in themselves, are NOT the problem.  Other scientists since then have declared this true, too.

    As detailed in the work of Aajonus, in his book, WWTL, bacteria and virii, etc, feed off of dead and dying tissue, not healthy ones and are thus desperately NEEDED in your body's natural cleansing and rebuilding processes that it carries on every day.  If you have illness or disease, that IS your cure... so long as you are feeding yourself the right nutrients that allow it to cleanse and rebuild.  IF you are feeding your body nutrients that clog this process, disease will be very painful, and will not produce better health as a byproduct.  If you take drugs that stop this disease or infection altogether (antibiotics), you will effectively stop your symptoms, but disease will only fester and worsen later, as the waste products in your body that it was trying to clean out through illness remain stored, and interfere with your health.

    You can ask any health professional and they can tell you that salmonella, and all those "harmful" bacteria famed in the press for destroying health, are WITH you everyday.  They are on and in our bodies, and cannot be gotten rid of. If you eat one salmonella bacteria, this is not the problem.  Even if you eat a large quantity of them and have a "cleansing reaction" by all the good work they are doing in cleaning you out, this is not the problem.  The problem is when you don't eat foods that clean you out, but instead poison you.  Cooked foods and medications and pesticides have FAR WORSE possibilities for devastating health that raw foods with natural bacteria. Bacteria are already in you, all the time.  You can't get rid of them.   Unless you cook yourself in high heat.  Then you'd be dead.  This is what your food is when cooked.  It is dead of nutrition.

  4. What symptoms can I expect relief from?

    People seem to be able to cure themselves of nearly every illness over time on this way of eating.  Truly, the success of this diet is amazing.  Let it be known right now, that there is NO scientific, double blind studies to back this up at this time, so you are going on someone's word alone.  BUT, if you are interested in amazing health, you owe it to yourself to look into this.  It IS possible to live without headaches, allergies, tummy aches, aches and pains, have amazing energy, etc.

  5. What symptoms might I expect from this diet?

    When you start this diet, most people find they experience improved health and relief from many symptoms right away.  Within one month, nearly everyone experiences improved health.  However, the damage done to our bodies by eating cooked food, taking medications and consuming poisons like drugs and pesticides is great.  In a study by the Price/Pottenger Foundation, it took six generations of eating raw to repair damage done to bones, muscles, organs, teeth, and genes that occurred from eating cooked foods.   Healing takes time and energy, and some symptoms can be painful while your body detoxes. Depending on how compromised your body is, the symptoms may be hardly noticeable, or may be very noticeable and can go on for a long time. Fatigue, need for rest and sleep, are common ones.  However, keep in mind that disease without proper nourishment is far more painful and enduring.

    Other effects that are produced from eating this way can be interesting and fun(ny)...   Some people have found their bodies "waking up" to instinctive eating and notice they have cravings for exactly the foods they need to heal.  If your body has been deficient in a nutrient because it is inaccessible in the cooked foods it has been receiving, you might find you absolutely crave a food raw now until your body gets enough of it.  One person, for example, found that something in the raw, unheated honey was providing her the nutrients she needed (enzymes, or vitamins, perhaps) and craved and ate several pounds of it the first few weeks on this diet.

    Unlike cravings experienced on non-raw foods, though, they tend to go away when your body has had enough.  You don't need to be afraid of them on this diet.  If your body needs fat or protein, for example, eat it!

  6. SOME EATING AND FOOD COMBINATION GUIDELINES...

    This diet is about eating instinctively and providing your body what it is calling for.   However, there are some general guidelines that help us, as we have eaten cooked foods for so long, our bodies can have trouble remembering what they do best on...

    ANIMAL FOODS: are wonderful and can be eaten just as they are.  They are high in protein and fat, which is great.  Some people prefer to eat them just plain, and some prefer some recipe ideas.  For more help with recipes, refer to our recipe section which will be posted soon.  Help us add to it!

    CARBOHYDRATES AND FATS...

    Fruit: As this diet is primarily an animal based diet that is high in
    protein and fats, carbohydrates tend to adversely effect blood sugar since they don't have much fat to slow them down.  Fruit is a wonderful food, but you don't need to eat much of it.  As a general rule, it is a good idea when eating fruit to have a raw fat with it to slow down the rate of the sugar hitting your blood stream.  Raw fats with fruit seems to have a very different effect than raw fruits alone, in maintaining health.   You can have raw, no-salt-added cheeses, or cream, or eggs in a egg and fruit smoothie, for some examples.

    It is also a good idea to consume some raw fat with fruit or produce (veggies) that is not organic, as the raw fat will combine with the pesticides or other chemicals and "contain" them, making them far less harmful to your body.  I don't it was stressed adequately in WWTL just how dangerous non-organic produce is without raw fat.

    Veggies: Contrary to popular diet advice these days, vegetables are not considered important on this diet because this diet is naturally cleansing and the digestive tract of a human is not set up for the cellulose in vegetables.  If you do eat vegetables, consuming some raw fats with them is especially a good idea if the veggies are not organic, however.

    Cooked starch: Cooked starch is one of the cooked foods that can have some benefit on this diet.  However, it is limited.  According to Aajonus, when you eat a non-whole grain starch (French bread/ white rice) with a large amount of raw fat (raw butter, cold pressed olive or peanut oil), it helps to combine and transport toxins out of your body.   Apparently, whole grains are unnecessary and even counterproductive, as, like vegetables, the body is not set up to digest them.  Cooked bread and fat is also especially helpful in absorbing overactive hormones, like adrenaline, as it acts to sort of "soak it up" and detox it out of the body.  Aajonus recommends white sourdough French bread made of only: non-whole-wheat flour, sourdough, and possibly sea salt and nothing more added (not vitamin enriched bread, and no oils added.)  (Salt, according to Aajonus, with gluten, can combine and exit the body without harm. Except in this form, Aajonus considers all forms of salt to be harmful to the body.

    However, the goal is to get off of bread as much as you can.  [I found I could do this easily once I introduced raw milk to my diet.] - WB

    VEGETABLES AND MEAT  make a bad combination. They take different juices to break down (alkaline vs. acidic) and counteract the other's digestion.  In addition, whole veggies in general will actually constipate you on this diet and aren't necessary because this diet is naturally cleansing.  Also, veggies in general, will limit your appetite for meat which is counterproductive. Veggie oils like cold pressed peanut or olive oil, with whole veggies are bad because the nutrients in the veggies will be "washed away" with the oil (unless you eat starch with that meal in which case the oil will combine with the starch not the veggies). (ex: bread with salad and oil dressing = ok)   Tomatoes are an exception - they are ok.  You CAN always eat animal fat with ANYTHING -  any combo.  (butter, cheese, etc with veggies are ok.)

    VEGGIE JUICE:  Apparently a totally different story than whole veggies...Juice is much more beneficial to you than whole veggies and if you crave the juices, it's ok to have them.  Keep the sugar content low (low carrot/beet content).   You can mix the juice with raw eggs to help if you happen to have constipation and also to have some fat with that raw produce if it's non-organic.  Avocado with veggie juice is really yummy to some folks.

    Here's a JUICE RECIPE:  25 - 30% carrot and or beet (roots, potatoes, yam, etc) no more because they are too sugary and adversely effect blood sugar.  60% celery, and 5 - 10% parsley.  Juice will increase your mental capacities, especially if they are sluggish, and help your body and brain work better in unison. Many people have found immediate benefits from juicing vegetables.

    VEGGIE/ VS. ANIMAL FATS:  Vegetable fats detox, animal fats soothe, lubricate, etc.   Detoxing, while essential, often can cause symptoms of discomfort, while animal fats do the OPPOSITE.  It seems that it's a common misunderstanding to think it is necessary to  detox *before* you rebuild your body, and therefor, people focus on detoxing in the beginning, but not rebuilding.  This can cause a lot of discomfort, especially in someone who has a seriously compromised system (insomnia, for example, can sometimes be a detox symptom because the body needs to be awake often to detox heavy stuff).  The goal is to BALANCE detoxing and rebuilding/soothing.   You could actually spend a LIFETIME detoxing (whether it be general detoxing, or chemical exposure, or detoxing cancer, etc) and never rebuild (broken down tissue, glands, muscles, etc). You DON'T HAVE TO fully detox to regain feeling strength, vitality, and health.  Your body will detox at it's own pace when it deems it's necessary. But, you CAN start rebuilding right away and *soothing* your body in the process with the raw animal products and fats.  If your symptoms are too heavy, back off on veggie oils that act as cleansing solvents (cold pressed olive oil, peanut oil, etc) and consume more cream, butter and meat.  Also, coconut cream is the only veggie exception.  It acts as a cleaner, but ALSO as a soother as do animal fats.

    DIGESTION TIMES:  Apparently raw meat is only in your tummy about 45 minutes! (The first part of your tummy anyway).  Knowing this makes it easier to consume more of the foods you want to consume in one day, without improperly combining them.
    For ex, 45 minutes after meat, you can consume some veggie juice without combo probs. Or twenty minutes after juice, you can have meat.

  7. WHAT IS SAFE TO EAT?  HOW DO I PICK FOOD THAT IS SAFE FOR ME?   WHAT DO I NEED TO BE AWARE OF?

    The question of bacteria is not the one to be concerned with, as detailed in question # 3. The dangers you need to protect yourself from are the man-made chemicals of today - the pesticides, hormones, and other chemicals found in today's foods. Following, is a detailed explanation, much of which is found in WWTL, of what foods are safer to consume, and how they are eaten on this diet...

    SOME WORDS ABOUT DAIRY...

    Raw, whole milk has the most fat and is most preferable on this diet. If you are allergic to pasteurized milk, as both the authors of this site were, you might find you have marvelous luck with raw milk.

    On this note, it is unfortunately getting harder and harder to find raw milk due to germophobic agencies like the California Dairy Board, who, although they are supposed to only be "regulating" the production and sale of raw milk, are actually on an offensive to outlaw it. This is an outrage and if you care to invest in preserving your right to raw milk and other products, you can do something about it. Write to Aajonus Vonderplanitz at optimal@earthlink.net and tell him you want to join the class action suit he is waging. You can write the California legislators, even if you don't live in California. Tell them you have friends who live there who benefit from raw dairy and you don't want to see it banned. California sets the precedent for other states frequently, so it will be an investment in your own health, too. We hope to have a page up soon just to address this issue in more depth.

    Raw goat milk is another alternative, and is often more easily accessible through local small farmers who sell their excess. Call your 4-H extension to find them (if you live in the USA). For more information on this topic, read WWTL. We will also be adding a FAQ site specifically addressing the issue of finding foods on this diet that aren't readily available in supermarkets or even health food stores. Aajonus said to ask any local farmer you might be wanting to buy from if the cows/goats had any antibiotics within the last 30 days which you won't want to be passed on to you through the milk. After about 30 days, the danger is significantly less. Any hormones at all aren't safe, though.

    SOME USES OF DAIRY:

    Some of this info is touched on in the book. Cream is more relaxing than butter (about twice as much), and more relaxing than just drinking whole milk, too. So drinking whole milk is not the same as obtaining just cream if you are trying to get the most relaxing, calming effect in your body. Butter is more for lubrication of the body, but for nerves and jittery type feeling, cream is way better.

    [Milk SIGNIFICANTLY changed my health status when I was able to find local goat milk. It also completely increased my ability to stick with this diet. Within two days I was able to DELETE carbos (bread) from my diet, and my sugar cravings (even fruit) ceased completely on their own. Quitting the bread and adding the milk eased my depression, my constipation, and totally enhanced my energy and general well being.] - WB

    Apparently, while cooked starch (bread) can be beneficial in relieving cravings and even depression initially, one ought to try to get off of it as soon as they can because the toxins from cooked starch store in even a healthy body, and slow it down.

    SAFE FISH: The book says not to use fish farm fish, but it was unclear to me how one knows which fish is fish-farmed. Aajonus says it's required to be labeled (in Calif? can't recall), but I found out my local fish in Oregon wasn't necessarily labeled. Ask your butcher to know for sure! My butcher now so labels all fish after my requesting it. Safer fish tend to be: tuna, swordfish, and salmon (if it is fresh trolled, not fish farm. ASK!!)

    SAFE BEEF AND CHICKEN: It is Aajonus' understanding that toxins (like hormones fed to animals, and pesticides they consume, etc) are stored in the glands and bone marrow of large animals like cows. This is why he considers it safe to consume the muscle meat of non-free-range, or non-organic meats (ground round is ok). Some people vehemently disagree with this. Whatever you decide about this, it would definitely be in your best interest to NOT consume the glands or bone marrow of commercial animals.

    In addition, unfortunately, the life and death of commercial beef livestock is atrocious and inhumane, whereas with free-range livestock, their lives and well being are taken into account. Unfortunately, as we all know, free range animals are much more expensive.

    Chickens, because they are smaller animals, do not have the chance to adequately remove toxins from their muscle meat. He recommends only organic chicken.

    SAFE EGGS: On this diet, the understanding is that eggs are best eaten if unrefrigerated, which means buying them from a local chicken farmer. As many of us just can't do that, the best alternative is to buy them as close to the delivery date as possible at the store, and then keep them unrefrigerated at home in a cool place. The amino acids are fragile and tend to be destroyed through refrigeration. Fertile eggs have more amino acid content so that's why they are preferable. They enzymes are less destroyed through refrigeration, too, making them more utilizable in your body. Non fertile IS ok although free range is better.

    Eggs are added to smoothies and help detoxification of medications and drugs. They can be eaten in the evening to help with sleep. They are delicious with fruit and honey, and a variety of ways.

    How to determine they are safe to buy either through store or privately...Ask if they receive drugs of any sort. If so, no good. They will be passed on to you, and that's dangerous. As is true with milk, drugs or antibiotics will be passed on into the egg within 30 days.

    SAFE FRESH PRODUCE: Yes! There IS danger of consuming produce that is not organic, as pesticides (especially heavily laced ones) can instantly destroy health. I don't think this point is clear enough in the book - just how dangerous non org. veggies and fruit are. It's a terrible realization. HOWEVER, you can protect yourself simply by consuming some raw fat, like a pat of butter with or before consuming non org. produce (before going to a salad bar with a friend, for ex.) The trouble is trying to protect your friends and loved ones without sounding too arrogant or food-police-ish ;)

    [When I was learning all these precautions, somehow I was under the impression that when eating meat, milk, eggs, or produce raw, you have to be MORE careful because the toxins can harm you more, whereas when they are cooked, they are sort of "cooked out" or something. In fact, it is just the OPPOSITE! Apparently, ANYTHING you eat raw is ALWAYS better than cooked, no matter what the quality of the product, (in addition to the reason because it is raw) but also because both plant and animals naturally protect toxins to a degree (in animals, for ex, it is bound through the fat supplies and in my understanding, won't digest in your body when eaten raw - it's like it goes more safely through your system undigested in the animal fat. I believe the fat is also less available for benefit to you, thus organic is a better option simply to get more use of the animal fat). So, it's like it is encased more safely for consumption, whereas cooking the food "re-releases" the toxins, in Aajonus' words, and it is more dangerous to eat.] - WB

    That's all for now, folks. We intend to add to this as time allows, so keep looking. IF you have read the book, WWTL, feel free to write us with more ideas of frequently asked questions to add here. Though the temptation is great, please refrain from bombarding us with questions if you have not first read, We Want to Live, by Aajonus Vonderplanitz. ;) Really, we are just real people here who have limited time too. MANY of the common questions are answered in Aajonus' book, so we kindly ask your cooperation with this request. Thank you!!

 
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