The MLM Aspect of the Fake Korean Germanium From Geranti

I, Karl Loren, in April 2010, reviewed a section of a long-ago published text I obtained from the web, and gave references for. I commented, then, only on the complete lack of evidence or science in Sandra Goodman's claims for GE. Somewhere in that material I also criticized Korean-claims of "making" GE as not believable with the hydroponic method they purported to use. I do not believe that the person claiming to have had good results with Korean Ge, ON hiv, had a useful story and, at this point, not having had any direct connection with the text ascribed to him, I have simply deleted it as not usful.

At this late date I have removed that material at the request of a person who was quoted, apparently by the Korean company, or Sandra Goodman, in any event it was not my material that made referenct to him.

Because I was uninsured when I first discovered that I was infected, I sought natural treatment remedies while I waited for the opportunity to begin HAART (highly active anti-retroviral therapies). Michael and I had done some research and found information pointing to the antigenic properties of Germanium-132 and N-Actyle-Carnitine (NAC).

I started taking 300mg of Germanium and 90mg of NAC (along with a regimen of vitamins) daily. In two months time I witnessed a dramatic decrease in viral load. The concomitant decrease in T4 cells worried me. But then my doctor observed something very interesting. While the derived absolute count of T4 cells was decreasing, the cells were increasing (rather dramatically) as a percentage of my total lymphocyte population – starting at 26.5%, then 29%, then 35%(!).

My doctor (a highly esteemed specialist in infectious diseases) convinced me NOT to start HAART and just observe the progression of the disease under this natural remedy. My next numbers will be calculated in February.

Interestingly, upon seeing these results, I doubled my daily intake of Germanium and NAC and started to do even more research on Germanium. I found information verifying what you have reported here. Apparently, the company that first manufactured AZT launched a massive disinformation campaign in the late 1980s, early 1990s to discourage the use of Germanium. I read that they also clandestinely funded a foundation which worked to place anti-Germanium individuals on the UK government board that approves certain drugs.

The most shocking information, however, was that even with an astounding amount of anecdotal evidence on the effectiveness of Germanium, there has not been a single human study of it since the 1980s (except, apparently, for some unpublished studies by the Chinese and the Korean study which you have cited).

When I first became aware of being infected, I was determined to go on HAART as soon as possible, especially considering the good results that many have experienced with Trizivir. Now, I am almost convinced that there is a large population of individuals who could fight off HIV infection with natural remedies. Only so many of them were placed on HAART at the first signs of infection that we don’t know (and probably underestimate) that population.

It will be interesting to see if anything becomes of this new research. Please share this information as broadly as possible to benefit those who may be in similar situations.

The above accounts regarding HIV and Organic Germanium are exceedingly interesting. Many readers will have read about my attempts over quite a few years during the mid to late 1980s to fund research regarding germanium’s potentially therapeutic effects upon HIV, both in the UK and in the USA, but with no success.

This sordid story posits that the drug companies which make retrovirals closed down all attempts to do research with natural approaches during the late 1980s, early 1990s. Sadly, in the UK germanium was banned for sale as a supplement following a tabloid scandal about kidney toxicity (due to contamination by inorganic germanium dioxide).

Below are some relevant hyperlinks in which I have relayed some of this story:

Perhaps there may be some meaningful response from others who may be active in this field. The only people I know of that are actually producing organic germanium and doing clinical research are a Korean group called Geranti. Their contact details are:

Obviously Sandra is mistaken. The simplest sort of research on the web would find my authoritative web pages about Ge, and reveal the fraud of her promoting the Korean fake stuff.

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